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Starmade | Mining Planets causing lag.
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Description

Ice planets are causing excessively more lag than strip mining other planets even of the same size,

Pings almost guaranteed to jump up from 150-200 to 500-600, timed perfectly when I begin to blast Ice Planets with salvage beams. Sadly the screenshots didnt save ping, but This:


was the situation it occurred it

If you need a quick ship to test, This:

KDI Terrain Smasher MK2 PD.rar281 KBDownload
is the vessel that was used.

This -may- require more than 15 people online on a server to achieve, but, my experience shows Ice planets are an issue compared to their counterparts

Details

Task Type
Bug
Testing Results
Affected Gamemode(s)
Multiplayer
Reproducible
uncertain
Last tested (version)
.19488
Category
Engine
First occurrence (version)
0.19485
Hardware/Software/System
OS-Specific
No
Hardware-Specific
No
Video Card Vendor
NVIDIA
Video Card Model
GT530
User/Reporter/Contact
Username on Registry
Napther
Serverconfig (server.cfg)
<replace this line with the file content>
Clientconfig (settings.cfg)
<replace this line with the file content>

Event Timeline

Napther updated the task description. (Show Details)Nov 9 2015, 10:25 PM
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SmilingDemon added a comment.Nov 10 2015, 8:11 PM

-Validated-

i remember Ice planets to always needing more ressources .. i guess the transparencies are the reason for that ?

SmilingDemon moved this task from New / Unconfirmed to Open / Validated on the Issue Navigation board.Nov 10 2015, 8:11 PM
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Chandler claimed this task.Nov 10 2015, 8:24 PM
Chandler added a comment.Nov 11 2015, 3:05 AM

Updating
Using Demons ship it doesn't matter what planet, (ice, green, so far) my FPS goes from 65-70 to 6. I'll try a smaller one next.

Napther added a comment.Nov 11 2015, 5:40 PM

Over on Shattered Skies we are using 50r planets. Try a Universe of those as a comparison

Chandler added a comment.Nov 11 2015, 8:48 PM
In T844#31022, @Napther wrote:

Over on Shattered Skies we are using 50r planets. Try a Universe of those as a comparison

Ya'll have such big sectors, but tiny planets...

Chandler added a comment.Nov 11 2015, 9:31 PM

Currently Testing on the Scattered Skys server..

Chandler added a comment.Nov 11 2015, 9:59 PM

Here are the results from the SS server.
Green Planets fps dropped to 9-11
Purple to 6-9
Sandy to 6-9
Ice 6-9

Didn't seem like the icy was much different. There were a lot of players (over 20) Pings did go higher than normal when mining.

Napther, or S. Demon, are you able to record some mining to rule out my connection to the server?

Napther added a comment.EditedNov 11 2015, 10:04 PM

I shall try using some of my old software to record and submit. GIF files do not save the HUD on them.

But the main thing is both the Ping and FPS are adversely effective from what I found. Ill get the recordings done asap.

Napther added a comment.EditedNov 12 2015, 1:45 PM

...15 minutes of footage later, I find out that I need to be in Windowed mode to record properly than get a single image from a video...
Preliminarily, Desert planets appeared to cause the least drops in FPS and Ping... Hopefully pre-mining those planets hasnt skewed the results...

And sadly there is server lag from sources not planet mining... Ill have to do this when its died down.

Mining of an ice planet

Napther added a comment.Nov 12 2015, 2:22 PM

2015-11-12-1411-19.mp416 MBDownload
(Didnt want to be added on into an edited comment)

Chandler added a comment.Nov 13 2015, 3:55 PM

-Confirmed-

Not because the ice planet is causing lag, but mining planets still causing lag. The one reported on are small planets. When FPS goes from 60 to 8. when mining a small planet...Seems like an issue. Although granted, the ship doing the testing was a planet eater.

Chandler set Last tested (version) to .19488.Nov 13 2015, 3:56 PM
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Chandler renamed this task from Ice Planets causing excessive lag when mined to Mining Planets causing lag..
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lancake added a subscriber: lancake.Nov 13 2015, 7:33 PM
lancake changed the task status from In Queue (Game) to Open.

To be honest, no matter what you do, your FPS is not going to stay 60 when you're using that many groups. That's a performance drop, not lag.
Putting back to open status, the ping/lag issue needs to be investigated, not the performance drop.

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spunkie claimed this task.Nov 13 2015, 10:35 PM
spunkie added a comment.Nov 17 2015, 1:05 AM

I wasn't able to discern any noticeably large difference in ping rates with a green planet vs an ice planet, as well as an asteroid.

part1 green planet
https://youtu.be/QKAKKDTqwuo

part2 ice planet
https://youtu.be/JS0plgj3GpQ

part3 asteroid
https://youtu.be/WHC1acF7d4U

All tests carried out on shattered skies server @ sm.starside.space:4242
The ship used had 99 salvage groups with 50 salvage modules each.

Will attempt to contact author and see if he still encounters this problem.

spunkie added a subscriber: spunkie.Nov 28 2015, 8:35 PM
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I have not come across this behavior over 1 week of attempts.

AndyP added a subscriber: AndyP.Mar 5 2016, 11:05 PM
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-Rejected-

Can be countered by setting miner limits on the server.
Also could not reproduce lately.

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