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Starmade | Inconsistent faction claim reports
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Description

Current:
When a faction claims a system or home, faction news reports who did it.
When a faction looses a system or a home is reset, faction news is ambiguous.

Expected:
When a faction claims a system or home, faction news reports who did it.
When a faction looses a system or a home is reset, faction news reports who did it.

Rationale:
Information should be consistent; documenting who removed the block causing a system/home loss.

Right now, it is too easy for badmins to abuse this omission, and for griefing players to avoid detection (by launching unfactioned cores loaded w/ warheads).

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OS-Specific
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Hardware-Specific
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Serverconfig (server.cfg)
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Clientconfig (settings.cfg)
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erthparadine added a comment.EditedJun 2 2016, 10:57 PM

These seem closely related, so I'm piggybacking this report. Hope that's alright.
Current:
Faction looses system due to negative points, server says "ADMIN" revoked ownership.

Expected:
Faction looses system due to negative points, server SHOULD say "SERVER" revoked ownership. Or something else that makes it abundantly clear that an "ADMIN" in-fact had nothing to do with this.

Looking further ahead, could this mechanic be adjusted, so that "ADMIN" is never mentioned. Instead, always mentioning either a specific username, or "SERVER"?

Rationale:
Been seeing this for a while, players are somewhat accustomed to it, but at least a couple times each week I'm wasting time, explaining yet again to another player, that an "Admin" in-fact did NOT do something malicious. It's a difficult thing to defend against, when the server's reports are misleading. It certainly does not help build trust.

Faction [id=10561, name=Vaygr Raiders, description=a faction, size: 2; FP: -350],

What follows is an edited version of today's conversation, intended as an illustration ONLY. I can recall more than one group of players simply quitting the server, citing a sole "admin revoked our systems" event as "admin abuse".

BTW: I have text from another private chat thread, where a player has fessed-up to doing it, but doesn't want to disclose this detail in public for the time being (hence why I'm not attaching it to this ticket). If you want that, I can also forward...but either way, until someone speaks up about that, a little voice in their head is going to keep saying an "admin" is out griefing them, when an admin has nothing to do with the system loss.

Not cool, not cool at all...

2016/06/02 - 22:30:47 [Frasse]: ErthParadine
2016/06/02 - 22:30:58 [Frasse]: why is my ownership deleted?
2016/06/02 - 22:31:11 [zorozeenee]: Guys the admin removed ownership of our sector
2016/06/02 - 22:31:20 [zorozeenee]: hold on im posting screeny
2016/06/02 - 22:31:32 [zorozeenee]: he also deleted our homebase
2016/06/02 - 22:31:52 [zorozeenee]: no hold on, it literally says he revoked the claim
2016/06/02 - 22:32:06 [ErthParadine]: Sigh...I hate that error message. So misleading.
2016/06/02 - 22:32:10 [zorozeenee]: http://prntscr.com/bbn9fj
2016/06/02 - 22:32:18 [spocklin]: because if you fall below 0 then it says the admin revoked the system when they didnt
2016/06/02 - 22:33:08 [ErthParadine]: Exactly - thanks spocklin.

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erthparadine added a comment.Oct 7 2016, 12:18 PM

Still an issue:

Oct  7 12:16:01 stars SMStage: [FACTIONMANAGER] trying to add news entry: FactionNewsPost [factionId=10797, op=ADMIN, date=1475842561871, message=Ownership of System default(-141, 0, -21)
Oct  7 12:16:01 stars SMStage: has been revoked by ADMIN., permission=0] on Server(0) -> fid(10797)
Oct  7 12:16:01 stars SMStage: [FACTIONMANAGER] updated news on Server(0) for factionID 10797; delete: false