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Starmade | FEATURE REQUEST: Allow players to leave #general
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Request:
Allow players to leave the #general chat channel, or at least admins.

Rationale:
As an admin, I'll often login but just idle on the server, watching for any excessive lag spikes, abuse around spawn, or just being ready to help at request (via PMs and a dedicated help channel).

The ignore function is not very useful in this regard, as it requires manually ignoring each and every logged-in pilot upon every relog.

I can close the #general chat channel, but messages still popup on my screen. Its distracting, and unnecessary, especially when a pilot's internal dialog leaks through their fingers...

Further, it becomes increasingly difficult to actually catch PMs, or messages in multiple other monitored chat channels, as the constant stream of noise in #general is conditioning players to subconsciously ignore all messages.

Here's a copy/paste from today's chat logs.

2016/05/09 - 18:35:30 [AJ1AJ]: ima make a car
2016/05/09 - 18:35:51 [AJ1AJ]: is it even possible?
2016/05/09 - 18:36:27 [AJ1AJ]: hmm ima try to drive on planets
2016/05/09 - 18:36:39 [AJ1AJ]: rotating wheels and stuff
2016/05/09 - 18:37:09 [AJ1AJ]: like a skid racer?
2016/05/09 - 18:43:13 [AJ1AJ]: small stuff sucks
2016/05/09 - 18:43:30 [AJ1AJ]: ah this lag
2016/05/09 - 18:43:47 [AJ1AJ]: im using laptops
2016/05/09 - 18:44:02 [AJ1AJ]: :/
2016/05/09 - 18:44:05 [AJ1AJ]: its not that bad
2016/05/09 - 18:45:25 [AJ1AJ]: i use normal laptop :z
2016/05/09 - 18:45:52 [AJ1AJ]: 30fps is fine for me.. i lag too much anyway so more fps doesnt make the difference
2016/05/09 - 18:45:58 [AJ1AJ]: internet lag*
2016/05/09 - 18:46:25 [AJ1AJ]: umm why are there so many planets here
2016/05/09 - 18:46:35 [AJ1AJ]: in my sector...
2016/05/09 - 18:46:39 [AJ1AJ]: system*
2016/05/09 - 18:46:42 [AJ1AJ]: wait whay
2016/05/09 - 18:46:49 [AJ1AJ]: someone look at my system on map
2016/05/09 - 18:46:58 [AJ1AJ]: its next to spawn.. i see like 15 planets in it
2016/05/09 - 18:47:15 [AJ1AJ]: not even in orbit lines :z
2016/05/09 - 18:47:31 [AJ1AJ]: uhh someone blew upa  planet?
2016/05/09 - 18:47:43 [AJ1AJ]: hmmm ok maybe leme go see. idk a thing about anythin
2016/05/09 - 18:47:51 [AJ1AJ]: actually ye it probably is. all green
2016/05/09 - 18:48:29 [AJ1AJ]: id mine em but i need a planet to make a car on
2016/05/09 - 18:48:55 [AJ1AJ]: ?
2016/05/09 - 18:53:00 [AJ1AJ]: hm im lagging tons ffor some reason..
2016/05/09 - 18:54:08 [AJ1AJ]: this planet aint loading..
2016/05/09 - 18:54:49 [AJ1AJ]: ahh my ping :(
2016/05/09 - 18:56:04 [AJ1AJ]: on tab it says my ping is 20k :z
2016/05/09 - 19:02:51 [AJ1AJ]: wth
2016/05/09 - 19:03:01 [AJ1AJ]: why is my internet suddenly so bad
2016/05/09 - 19:04:05 [AJ1AJ]: omg my ship is not helping...  its rolling around the planet in 5 seconds for each rol over the entire planet
2016/05/09 - 19:05:32 [AJ1AJ]: NOOOO
2016/05/09 - 19:05:48 [AJ1AJ]: WHYYYYY
2016/05/09 - 19:05:57 [AJ1AJ]: 31754 intensity sun....
2016/05/09 - 19:06:09 [AJ1AJ]: ugh i hate ppl who use up my home internet... this happens
2016/05/09 - 19:06:27 [AJ1AJ]: what happened to my ship..
2016/05/09 - 19:06:42 [AJ1AJ]: its my stupid home internet
2016/05/09 - 19:07:08 [AJ1AJ]: wifi but i shouldnt go to 20k ping just as i go to a planet
2016/05/09 - 19:07:26 [AJ1AJ]: autodampeneers also broke..
2016/05/09 - 19:07:55 [AJ1AJ]: i landed on a planet
2016/05/09 - 19:08:02 [AJ1AJ]: how the heck did i get shot intoa  sun
2016/05/09 - 19:08:13 [AJ1AJ]: and lose my ship... AGAIN:/
2016/05/09 - 19:08:27 [AJ1AJ]: i seriously dont get that tho...
2016/05/09 - 19:08:53 [AJ1AJ]: i got sent like 40 sectors away in 5 seconds...
2016/05/09 - 19:08:59 [AJ1AJ]: and through a sun which killed me..
2016/05/09 - 19:09:07 [AJ1AJ]: ok maybe not 40.. maybe 10 :/
2016/05/09 - 19:09:40 [AJ1AJ]: i didnt jump..
2016/05/09 - 19:09:56 [AJ1AJ]: i landed on a planet exxited my ship and then i lagged so much and ended up through a sun without dying
2016/05/09 - 19:10:00 [AJ1AJ]: even tho my ship overheated.
2016/05/09 - 19:10:32 [AJ1AJ]: sucks.. i lost my resources to make my car now :z
2016/05/09 - 19:10:58 [AJ1AJ]: in the process my mouse sensitivity went super high
2016/05/09 - 19:11:15 [AJ1AJ]: maybe its cause my ship is destroyed :/
2016/05/09 - 19:11:32 [AJ1AJ]: idk where i am.. i travelede exactly 42km
2016/05/09 - 19:11:40 [AJ1AJ]: what... the sun isnt even in the path that i traveled..
2016/05/09 - 19:11:54 [AJ1AJ]: how the... did i get 30k sun intensity damage.....
2016/05/09 - 19:11:59 [AJ1AJ]: the sun is leme get it
2016/05/09 - 19:12:01 [AJ1AJ]: wait no
2016/05/09 - 19:12:23 [AJ1AJ]: sun is 6 sectors away from the planet
2016/05/09 - 19:12:47 [AJ1AJ]: im  10 sectors away from planet... somehow i think the planets gravity shot me all the way through a sun that fast...
2016/05/09 - 19:12:59 [AJ1AJ]: makes no sense :(
2016/05/09 - 19:13:28 [AJ1AJ]: all i know is the sun at 30000 intensity only destroyed half of my ship and made it overheat...
2016/05/09 - 19:13:48 [AJ1AJ]: what this really makes no sense
2016/05/09 - 19:13:59 [AJ1AJ]: ok so the half that is destroyed... the docking module is in the center and survived..
2016/05/09 - 19:14:07 [AJ1AJ]: the rail docker*
2016/05/09 - 19:14:30 [AJ1AJ]: same goes for faction block
2016/05/09 - 19:14:34 [AJ1AJ]: ill jump to spawn
2016/05/09 - 19:15:21 [AJ1AJ]: why is my fps so low...
2016/05/09 - 19:15:37 [AJ1AJ]: dont tell me i melted my computer already.... i only got it a month ago..
2016/05/09 - 19:16:49 [AJ1AJ]: im at spawn
2016/05/09 - 19:17:14 [AJ1AJ]: someone care to explain how the blocks in the center of the damaged area survived?
2016/05/09 - 19:17:56 [AJ1AJ]: rail docker and faction block..
2016/05/09 - 19:19:13 [AJ1AJ]: my mouse sensiitivity is going ultra high..
2016/05/09 - 19:20:00 [AJ1AJ]: i cant see anything atm... cant move the camera properly..
2016/05/09 - 19:20:12 [AJ1AJ]: everything also looks zoomed in.
2016/05/09 - 19:20:23 [AJ1AJ]: i saw erth
2016/05/09 - 19:21:09 [AJ1AJ]: im still trying to understand what caused the lag and what casued the attack by the sun and what protectedd 2 blocks..
2016/05/09 - 19:21:38 [AJ1AJ]: wait how did the back of my ship get damaged too?
2016/05/09 - 19:22:03 [AJ1AJ]: sun should damage stuff evenly tho or atleast in 1 secton... not miss out the entire middle :?
2016/05/09 - 19:24:13 [AJ1AJ]: if anyone works out what caused whatever just happened plz say
2016/05/09 - 19:28:36 [AJ1AJ]: oh well screw my car project then.. turns out gravity doesnt want me to make a car...
2016/05/09 - 19:28:55 [AJ1AJ]: i still dont understand the reason for my mouse sensitivity for being this high....
2016/05/09 - 19:29:29 [AJ1AJ]: im sure 0.5 isnt high...
2016/05/09 - 19:29:55 [AJ1AJ]: not unlesss my game somehow changed it
2016/05/09 - 19:30:17 [AJ1AJ]: ah its high in windowws too...
2016/05/09 - 19:30:50 [AJ1AJ]: my mouse is never like this
2016/05/09 - 19:31:02 [AJ1AJ]: i think starmade broke my mouse :(
2016/05/09 - 19:31:38 [AJ1AJ]: the way it moves the mouse is if it gets close to the edge it moves it back to the center.... i was spinning so fast i think my mouse must have done that a ridiculous amount of times breaking it... :(
2016/05/09 - 19:32:18 [AJ1AJ]: (the rolling around planet messed it up i think..)
2016/05/09 - 19:33:09 [AJ1AJ]: ye i will... idk what to do with this ship... ill leave it at spawn docked with the docking module that survived for observation incase anyonee can figure out what happened (i already rebooted it so i could fly it back)

Details

Task Type
Bug
Testing Results
Affected Gamemode(s)
Single and Multi
Reproducible
uncertain
Category
Ingame GUI/HUD
Hardware/Software/System
OS-Specific
No
Hardware-Specific
No
Video Card Vendor
uncertain
Steps to reproduce

O.M.G.

*facedesk*

Serverconfig (server.cfg)
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Event Timeline

Restricted Application added a project: Issue Navigation. · View Herald TranscriptMay 10 2016, 2:21 AM
erthparadine updated the task description. (Show Details)May 10 2016, 2:54 AM
erthparadine updated the task description. (Show Details)May 10 2016, 3:42 PM
SmilingDemon shifted this object from the S1 Public space to the S3 Starmade space.May 12 2016, 8:19 PM
SmilingDemon changed the visibility from "Custom Policy" to "Public (No Login Required)".
SmilingDemon changed the edit policy from "Task Author" to "Starmade (Project)".
SmilingDemon changed Affected Gamemode(s) from none/unspecified to Single and Multi.
SmilingDemon changed Category from none/unspecified to Ingame GUI/HUD.
SmilingDemon added a comment.May 12 2016, 8:34 PM

two things here

-1 we do not take feature requests here, unless it is done by a developer for later reference to testing it. therefore this would be rejected

-2 i also do not understand the problem here. when id do close the chat window in the channel selection i do no longer see the chat ... or am i missunderstanding something there ?

erthparadine added a comment.May 12 2016, 8:52 PM

Darn it - I was wondering about the best place to post feature requests.

As for the chat window. Even after closing it, you'll still see #general messages popup in red.

SmilingDemon added a comment.May 12 2016, 9:20 PM

weird ... i have to retest that than ... because i tried and havnt seen my own messages on the screen ... will see to that tommorrow

and the suggestion forum is the place for that.
gets discussion there and might be picked up by the council and highlighted to development .. maybe. i do not do suggestions, so i dont really know ;)

erthparadine added a comment.May 12 2016, 10:42 PM

I've posted a suggestion there before which was well received, although that one proposed a very broadly-sweeping change...figured the simpler requests would go here. I'll stick to the forums in the future, thanks for the pointer.

SmilingDemon added a comment.May 13 2016, 3:58 PM

Ok i dont get it, using this


and i cant see any messages on screen when general is closed that where written by a second client.

what am i doing wrong ?

erthparadine added a comment.May 15 2016, 12:56 AM

W.T.F... I don't think you're doing anything wrong @SmilingDemon . As I can get the annoying #general chatter to go away now by clicking "close". I could have sworn I tried testing this in the past though...but honestly didn't specifically try with the current production version until your comment.

At this point, we might as well consider this resolved. I've posted on The Dock an enhancement request, and while players can't leave #general, we can at least stop screen spam by selecting "close" in current release.

Thanks for your time!

SmilingDemon closed this task as Rejected.May 15 2016, 9:39 AM

i know the chat was shown on screen when all channels where closed.
not sure when that did chang.

closing this then :)

Restricted Application edited projects, added Starmade; removed Issue Navigation. · View Herald TranscriptMay 15 2016, 9:39 AM
erthparadine added a comment.May 23 2016, 1:07 AM

I'm being force-fed #general messages again

erthparadine added a comment.May 23 2016, 1:09 AM

This is with the #general channel "closed" as recommended earlier in this ticket. It still doesn't stop #general messages from spamming my screen.

erthparadine added a comment.May 31 2016, 4:19 AM

The force-feeding continues...is this spam really necessary?

SmilingDemon added a comment.May 31 2016, 8:41 AM

thats a missunderstanding i think.
fot this towork you have to close the general chat and open another channel on the hud in full mode.
that can be a private empty one that can be moved out of view.
i think thats how it works

erthparadine added a comment.EditedMay 31 2016, 5:27 PM
In T1416#58529, @SmilingDemon wrote:

thats a missunderstanding i think.
fot this towork you have to close the general chat and open another channel on the hud in full mode.
that can be a private empty one that can be moved out of view.
i think thats how it works

I wish you were correct *pulls more hair out* ...sorry the messages are a bit faded, was slow to catch the screenshots, although this should illustrate.

As for moving anything out of view, chat windows can't be moved out of view (anymore?). As confirmed by testing on both MacOS and Windows 7, current release.


erthparadine added a comment.May 31 2016, 6:24 PM

One more screenshot, with a non-#general chat channel window set w/ HUD & FULL

AndyP moved this task from Unclassed to Archived on the Starmade board.Aug 26 2016, 10:34 AM
Restricted Application added a project: GUI/HUD. · View Herald TranscriptMar 10 2017, 6:13 PM