If a player has multiple blueprints in their inventory, which one is shown? Or are all shown in a sort of tree like structure?

I am voting no because I feel that the ability to spawn from blueprints and to use blueprints to store items bypassing cargo requirements be removed from the game entirely. Blueprint spawning makes shipyards unnecessary. With massive cargo stores, instant spawning and no need for a specific structure there is never any actually need to build a shipyard over simply using blueprints.

In T1643#64159, @Megacrafter127 wrote:

If a player has multiple blueprints in their inventory, which one is shown? Or are all shown in a sort of tree like structure?

According to the post there would be a side box that appears similar to the sell box in the shop menu. It would have a drop down menu for players to choose a blueprint to view.

In T1643#64168, @Sven_The_Slayer wrote:

I am voting no because I feel that the ability to spawn from blueprints and to use blueprints to store items bypassing cargo requirements be removed from the game entirely. Blueprint spawning makes shipyards unnecessary. With massive cargo stores, instant spawning and no need for a specific structure there is never any actually need to build a shipyard over simply using blueprints.

Understandable. However i feel that it's a nessecary game play element. Especially for new players. We can take steps to encourage the building of shipyards with some nerfs to blueprint spawning such as having a build time that's slower than a shipyard. But ultimately I think that blueprint spawningis how we're gonna eventually be able to sell completed ships at player shops

In T1643#64171, @Crimson-Artist wrote:

Understandable. However i feel that it's a nessecary game play element. Especially for new players. We can take steps to encourage the building of shipyards with some nerfs to blueprint spawning such as having a build time that's slower than a shipyard. But ultimately I think that blueprint spawningis how we're gonna eventually be able to sell completed ships at player shops

Slow build times doesn't address the fact that you can still store a huge number of blocks without any mass. I would much rather see the ability to hire NPC shipyards to construct a ship or buying ships from NPCs for early players.

In T1643#64225, @Sven_The_Slayer wrote:

In T1643#64171, @Crimson-Artist wrote:

Understandable. However i feel that it's a nessecary game play element. Especially for new players. We can take steps to encourage the building of shipyards with some nerfs to blueprint spawning such as having a build time that's slower than a shipyard. But ultimately I think that blueprint spawningis how we're gonna eventually be able to sell completed ships at player shops

Slow build times doesn't address the fact that you can still store a huge number of blocks without any mass. I would much rather see the ability to hire NPC shipyards to construct a ship or buying ships from NPCs for early players.

This can easily be solved by forcing blueprints to have the same mass/volume as all the items they contain.

In T1643#64253, @Megacrafter127 wrote:

In T1643#64225, @Sven_The_Slayer wrote:

In T1643#64171, @Crimson-Artist wrote:

Understandable. However i feel that it's a nessecary game play element. Especially for new players. We can take steps to encourage the building of shipyards with some nerfs to blueprint spawning such as having a build time that's slower than a shipyard. But ultimately I think that blueprint spawningis how we're gonna eventually be able to sell completed ships at player shops

Slow build times doesn't address the fact that you can still store a huge number of blocks without any mass. I would much rather see the ability to hire NPC shipyards to construct a ship or buying ships from NPCs for early players.

This can easily be solved by forcing blueprints to have the same mass/volume as all the items they contain.

but then that brings up the problem of holding blueprints in your inventory. how do you spawn a ship whose mass is significantly greatly than the inventory space players have? Using Personal Cargo?

In T1643#64287, @Crimson-Artist wrote:

In T1643#64253, @Megacrafter127 wrote:

In T1643#64225, @Sven_The_Slayer wrote:

In T1643#64171, @Crimson-Artist wrote:

Understandable. However i feel that it's a nessecary game play element. Especially for new players. We can take steps to encourage the building of shipyards with some nerfs to blueprint spawning such as having a build time that's slower than a shipyard. But ultimately I think that blueprint spawningis how we're gonna eventually be able to sell completed ships at player shops

Slow build times doesn't address the fact that you can still store a huge number of blocks without any mass. I would much rather see the ability to hire NPC shipyards to construct a ship or buying ships from NPCs for early players.

This can easily be solved by forcing blueprints to have the same mass/volume as all the items they contain.

but then that brings up the problem of holding blueprints in your inventory. how do you spawn a ship whose mass is significantly greatly than the inventory space players have? Using Personal Cargo?

Yes, I see no problem with that? As for starter inventory prefilled blueprints, the player should be able to hit spawn before inventory leakage occurs.

If a blueprint is too heavy you would have to keep it in a storage system large enough to hold the mass. This way you cannot have pocket battleships.

I'm really interested in hearing what direction Schema wants to take blueprints.

As it stands now there is no reason to use a shipyard over a blueprint unless you are using the shipyard to dismantle a ship. They spawn instantly, can be filled all at once from personal storage or chests, have no mass, consume no power. The only downside is they are difficult to fill from shops but the same can be said about shipyards but the shipyard cannot be flown to a shop to do the buying so they still win there. Oh one other downside is the items are lost in the blueprint until the blueprint is complete.

Perhaps blueprints could remain such as ones player spawns with and maybe admins have access to them but from a survival standpoint they don't make much sense. I would much rather get alternative building methods in addition to shipyards over the current blueprints.

I say for now, Blueprints should get this feature because there is no efficient way to get ships.

What about only being able to spawn a blueprint at your Homebase, a friendly station (non NPC) and spawn? Should limit the pocket SHIP idea. As well as a max blueprint size (so you have to build big ships in shipyards). That should limit the pocket BATTLESHIP idea.

In T1643#64457, @AndyP wrote:

I would like to see them only being usable in a shipyard or shop directly.
But as shipyards and shops currently cannot hold enough blocks for large ships this may have to wait for the trading system to allow "ordering" the blocks to your shop/shipyard.

A serious discussion on the relation between shipyards and blueprints and the direction they will be going probably should happen.

-Schine reply-

Confirmed the replies we gave in the schine-counil meeting already, that this is for sure a thing to look into it, and implement.

I'm not in the council, but can I go ahead and recommend integration with the trading system (if it's feasible), so that mass orders for blueprints can be made from other shops via the Trading Guild delivery service?